{"id":2383,"date":"2024-03-22T22:08:42","date_gmt":"2024-03-22T22:08:42","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.top10bettingsites.co.uk\/?page_id=2383"},"modified":"2025-09-30T14:32:23","modified_gmt":"2025-09-30T14:32:23","slug":"wisdom-of-the-crowd-vs-fading-the-public-in-betting","status":"publish","type":"page","link":"https:\/\/www.rulesofsport.com\/betting\/articles\/wisdom-of-the-crowd-vs-fading-the-public-in-betting\/","title":{"rendered":"Wisdom of the Crowd vs Fading the Public in Betting"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignright size-full wp-image-2388\" src=\"https:\/\/www.rulesofsport.com\/betting\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/03\/wisdom-of-the-crowd-vs-fading-the-public-in-betting-400px.jpg\" alt=\"Wisdom of the Crowd vs Fading the Public\" width=\"400\" height=\"300\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.rulesofsport.com\/betting\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/03\/wisdom-of-the-crowd-vs-fading-the-public-in-betting-400px.jpg 400w, https:\/\/www.rulesofsport.com\/betting\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/03\/wisdom-of-the-crowd-vs-fading-the-public-in-betting-400px-300x225.jpg 300w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 400px) 100vw, 400px\" \/>You may have read our previous article on \u2018<a href=\"https:\/\/www.rulesofsport.com\/betting\/horse-racing\/steamers-and-drifters\/\">steamers and drifters<\/a>\u2019, two popular terms in betting.<\/p>\n<p>If you haven\u2019t, a steamer is any selection \u2013 it could be a racehorse, football team, tennis player, golfer etc \u2013 that has a weight of public money behind it, which in turn forces bookmakers to trim its odds in order to insure themselves against a huge liability.<\/p>\n<p>A drifter, meanwhile, is essentially the opposite \u2013 to balance the books of a steamer, a bookie will allow the odds of other, less popular selections to drift.<\/p>\n<p>The most common examples can be found in football when the team news is revealed \u2013 a side without their best players, through injury or being rested, will drift and their opponent (or the draw) will steam.<\/p>\n<p>In horse racing, the inclement weather on the morning of a racecard can cause similar odds fluctuations \u2013 a deluge of rain on already wet ground may see those who favour heavy ground \u2018steam in\u2019, while forces that favour faster ground drift outwards.<\/p>\n<p>This is all fine, but for punters it can be a minefield \u2013 do we follow the steam, i.e. bet using the \u2018wisdom of the crowd\u2019, or do we assume that once the pile-on commences, that the odds will move too far in one direction; creating an opportunity to \u2018fade the public\u2019.<\/p>\n<p>The truth is that different situations will dictate which strategy is the optimal one to deploy.<\/p>\n<h2>Wisdom of the Crowd When Betting<\/h2>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter size-full wp-image-2385\" src=\"https:\/\/www.rulesofsport.com\/betting\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/03\/wisdom-of-the-crowd-betting-800px.jpg\" alt=\"Wisdom of the Crowd Betting\" width=\"800\" height=\"462\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.rulesofsport.com\/betting\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/03\/wisdom-of-the-crowd-betting-800px.jpg 800w, https:\/\/www.rulesofsport.com\/betting\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/03\/wisdom-of-the-crowd-betting-800px-300x173.jpg 300w, https:\/\/www.rulesofsport.com\/betting\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/03\/wisdom-of-the-crowd-betting-800px-768x444.jpg 768w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\" \/><\/p>\n<p>In some ways, the modern punter has advantages over his peers from yesteryear.<\/p>\n<p>Social media gives us access to information quickly, easily and free of charge, which means we can get wind of stimuli that might precipitate steamers and drifters before the odds have moved too far in either direction.<\/p>\n<p>Think about the release of team news before a football game. In days gone by, that information would have spread slowly \u2013 indeed, there was a time when fans and punters had to call premium rate phonelines if they wanted to hear the team news in advance of kick off.<\/p>\n<p>Today, this information is shared to tens of millions of social media accounts in seconds \u2013 indeed, there are even times when the info is known before it\u2019s even officially published. Think of a team playing an away game; they might turn up at the stadium by bus a few hours before kick off &#8211; if a player doesn\u2019t disembark with their teammates, it would be fair to assume they\u2019re not playing in the game.<\/p>\n<p>That is just one reason why the wisdom of the crowd is such a powerful force in betting these days. Using sites like the Betfair Exchange, it\u2019s possible to see the weight of money that is coming in for a team, player or horse \u2013 there is, usually, good reason for a selection to be backed in such a way.<\/p>\n<p>Sometimes, a pick will be backed in heavily just because their opening odds are perceived to be too high \u2013 this often happens on a Monday for that week\u2019s golf tournaments around the world, with the first bookmaker to publish their prices for the week often taking something of a leap of faith.<\/p>\n<p>Other times, the stimuli of a steamer are more dynamic \u2013 team changes, weather updates, sickness bugs etc. Joseph Buchdahl, a prominent figure in the industry, has collated hundreds of thousands of \u2018wisdom of the crowd\u2019 football bets over the years, and his findings are interesting to say the least.<\/p>\n<p>By following the public money, the average punter\u2019s bankroll would have increased considerably from August 2015 to today.<\/p>\n<p>However, that\u2019s not to suggest that blindly following the crowd into bets is a smart strategy \u2013 such an approach could lead to lengthy losing streaks, and lest we forget that the public is prone to emotional responses, rather than cold, hard calculation.<\/p>\n<p>Is a tennis player more likely to win because it\u2019s their last Grand Slam event? Is a golfer more likely than not to win their home tournament? Will Man City lose just because their star striker isn\u2019t playing?<\/p>\n<p>Utilising the wisdom of the crowd can be a useful tool when drawing up your bets, but it\u2019s a strategy that comes with a number of caveats \u2013 if the public was winning bets left, right and centre, wouldn\u2019t we all be millionaires by now?<\/p>\n<h2>Fading the Public When Betting<\/h2>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter size-full wp-image-2384\" src=\"https:\/\/www.rulesofsport.com\/betting\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/03\/fading-the-crowd-betting-800px.jpg\" alt=\"Fading the Crowd Betting\" width=\"900\" height=\"440\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.rulesofsport.com\/betting\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/03\/fading-the-crowd-betting-800px.jpg 900w, https:\/\/www.rulesofsport.com\/betting\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/03\/fading-the-crowd-betting-800px-300x147.jpg 300w, https:\/\/www.rulesofsport.com\/betting\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/03\/fading-the-crowd-betting-800px-768x375.jpg 768w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 900px) 100vw, 900px\" \/><\/p>\n<p>There are two things that can be true of the wisdom of the crown approach to betting:<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li>The information that causes a steam or drift can be false or misinterpreted<\/li>\n<li>The steam or drift can push the odds too far in one direction<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p>One of the perfect examples of this comes at the big horse racing meetings. Some horses are taken to the hearts of the public \u2013 Tiger Roll is one such example in recent years, so on the day of a big race his odds were pushed in by casual punters backing a horse that they\u2019d previously heard of, or for whom there\u2019s a \u2018narrative\u2019.<\/p>\n<p>A similar scenario unfolds in betting markets linked to managerial appointments in football. If a manager is sacked, the bookmakers draw up a list of potential successors \u2013 you can bet your bottom dollar that there will be an \u2018emotional\u2019 name on there, perhaps an individual that has managed the club before. It&#8217;s absolutely not written in the stars that they will get the job this time, even if the steaming odds suggest otherwise.<\/p>\n<p>Betting against the crowd by being a contrarian is a risky business \u2013 usually, there is a legitimate stimulus that forces odds to steam or drift. But in some markets, there can be a psychological, emotional bias that sees odds steam.<\/p>\n<p>Think about Both Teams to Score or Over\/Under 2.5 Goals \u2013 football fans love goals, particularly in games that are televised. They will almost certainly back BTTS or the overs line, regardless of the value of doing so, which for contrarian punters can make BTTS \u2013 No and Under 2.5 Goals the more appealing option.<\/p>\n<p>The most popular betting events \u2013 think the Grand National, Cheltenham Gold Cup, FA Cup final, Wimbledon, The Masters golf \u2013 always has a large weight of money from casual sports fans, rather than clued up punters. Opposing this, by laying steamers and backing drifters, can be optimal.<\/p>\n<p>The secret to fading the public in your betting is knowing when big odds moves are based on legitimate changing variables, and when they are simply emotion-led responses \u2013 unsmart money, we might call it.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>You may have read our previous article on \u2018steamers and drifters\u2019, two popular terms in betting. If you haven\u2019t, a steamer is any selection \u2013 it could be a racehorse, football team, tennis player, golfer etc \u2013 that has a weight of public money behind it, which in turn forces bookmakers to trim its odds [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":3,"featured_media":0,"parent":69,"menu_order":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","template":"","meta":{"_acf_changed":false,"footnotes":""},"class_list":{"0":"post-2383","1":"page","2":"type-page","3":"status-publish","5":"entry"},"acf":[],"aioseo_notices":[],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.rulesofsport.com\/betting\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/pages\/2383","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.rulesofsport.com\/betting\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/pages"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.rulesofsport.com\/betting\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/page"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.rulesofsport.com\/betting\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/3"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.rulesofsport.com\/betting\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=2383"}],"version-history":[{"count":5,"href":"https:\/\/www.rulesofsport.com\/betting\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/pages\/2383\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":2457,"href":"https:\/\/www.rulesofsport.com\/betting\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/pages\/2383\/revisions\/2457"}],"up":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.rulesofsport.com\/betting\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/pages\/69"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.rulesofsport.com\/betting\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=2383"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}